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Meet Catherine

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Catherine Bell, author of The Awakened Company speaks about …

The Power of the Pause

How Into the Fire helped her to fall in love with the ocean, and how surfing inspires her to take more risks

Sharks, in board rooms (and not at Zuma Beach)

Watch our unedited conversation with Catherine


Meet Ellen

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Ellen Ercolini, money making maven talks with us about …

The energy of Into the Fire

What makes our Into the Fire partnership work

Watch our unedited conversation with Ellen

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Listen to a fast and fun conversation where Gary and Karen talk about the leadership concepts developed in Into the Fire with Carrie Kish, CEO of CultureSync on the Leadership Unleashed podcast